mk tank Posted May 10, 2012 Report Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) When purchasing an antenna, you will hear terms of 3db, 6db, 4.15dbi, 2.15 dbi, 9db, 8.1 etc. Some manufacturers use db other use dbi (because it looks better) Db - refers to the gain compared to a ¼ wave roof mounted antenna. Dbi – refers to the theriacal gain of an antenna in a free space vacuum. To compare antennas, take 2.15 of a dbi Antenna. E.g. – an 8.1dbi antenna = 6 db gain antenna. What does gain do? An antenna with a gain of 3 dB gain, means that the Transmitted (radiated) power is 3 dB higher (twice as much) – gain is logarithmic. E.g.A uhf CB is transmitting 5 watts into a 3 db gain antenna; therefore the radiated power is 10 wattsA uhf CB is transmitting 5 watts into a 6 db gain antenna; therefore the radiated power is 20 watts Impact of having higher gain antennas I always use a balloon to explain the impact of gain on the radiated energy, with someone stepping on it and gradually flattering the balloon.0 db – the balloon is round and provides the best all round coverage – ideal for mountains3 db – the balloon is ¾ round and provides the good all round coverage – ideal for mountains6 db – the balloon is ½ round and provides the best compromise for mountain driving and driving on the flat9 db – the balloon is ¼ round and provides the best for driving on the flat - dessert driving) The higher the gain the bigger the antenna. For further reading look here http://www.lakecomm.com.au/Antenna-Prop.html (im not asscoiated with this site) Edited May 10, 2012 by admin Reformatted to take up less space twisty 1
KMsMK Posted May 10, 2012 Report Posted May 10, 2012 Great info mk there are goog pics around the net too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
heyhey Posted May 10, 2012 Report Posted May 10, 2012 Just one thing, with dbi, do you take 2.15 'OFF' the dbi value for db? I think you may have a letter missing ie, "of" instead of 'off'. Otherwise good contribution
mk tank Posted May 11, 2012 Author Report Posted May 11, 2012 Sorrry I posted this late last night. Yes take 2.15 OFF a dbi antenna. Extending cables using connectors. You can extend the antenna cable by using the correct 50 ohm connectors that have been properly terminated. But, you have insertion loss" . Insertion loss is the loss of power across the connector typicaly 1 db. Therefore it is always better to replace the antenna cable if possible and adviod using connectors. Always use good quality connectors - i dont like the cheap screw together connectors that dick smith sell. I use crimp connectors with the correct crimping tool ( we but most off our connectors from Turnbulls)
Sooty_10 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Posted May 11, 2012 Good info, thanks mate. Always a bit of a mine field when looking at buying new antenna.
mk tank Posted May 11, 2012 Author Report Posted May 11, 2012 Unless your in the trade like me. I personally run a 3db gain rfi GPI - it has a flexible whip, but most of my driving is in the hills. I used to use these all the time on courier vehicles.
mk tank Posted May 11, 2012 Author Report Posted May 11, 2012 Antenna placement Try and mount the antenna as high as possible on the vehilce. If you mount the antenna on a bull bar, you will have some loss / reduction behind the vehilce. ( I have my antenna mounted on the fron of the vehicle) Dont have any other antennas within 500 mm of your antenna. Dont mount the antenna next to metal, ie at the base of the bull bar
Gissmo Posted May 26, 2012 Report Posted May 26, 2012 So what is a good brand antenna as the fiberglass one I have receives well but is very poor on transmitting had a lot of trouble up the cape last year with 4 trucks
BigGQWesty Posted May 26, 2012 Report Posted May 26, 2012 I'm running a 6Db flexible whip on my bullbar. I found this to be a good all round setup for hills or outback. Paired with the HF setup it's all you need...
mikegq Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 So what is a good brand antenna as the fiberglass one I have receives well but is very poor on transmitting had a lot of trouble up the cape last year with 4 trucks Sounds like have more than likely a fault, could be a shorted coax, and open circuit coax or a blown P.A in the radio antennas them selfs r reasonable reliable, is the antenna u have designed for UHF?
Gissmo Posted May 27, 2012 Report Posted May 27, 2012 Yes mate aerial matched for gme unit, sorry forgot to mention it happens more when we were spread out they others had to relay what we said to the front car.
Bogmeister Posted May 28, 2012 Report Posted May 28, 2012 Quality of antenna seems to make a bit of a difference too. The crappy antique antenna I was using broke so I replaced it with this. http://www.mobileone.com.au/antennas/brochures/F477SAN4.png. Reception and transmit are much clearer and longer range.
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