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Spam away. If the information (recovery POINTS only) can be kept in one spot, all good. I'll update the OP as required. Another thread on technique might be fun

oh yeah, you haven't seen them you'll need more than one model!

Yeah, sounds good. I'll have to buff out the scratches first though.

As you may have noticed our Patrols come standard with "dummy" tail lights for ADR compliance (the spare wheel can obscure the RH upper tail lights). I've had people tell me my lights aren't working. Wrong, they're built this way. The answer ... christmas tree. The tail lights (with RH indicator and reverse light) are available on ebay (about $100). The wiring is straight forward and the required circuits can be taken from the trailer plug.

Not that much!

How about his one? http://tigerz11.com.au/products/SIDE-AWNING-2.5-X-2M.html

No problems here. Google is clear. winxp n firefox.

Thanks Glort. I learnt something.

.. in a new pub

... uummm ... eewwwwww

bout time

Thanks Ray. can I copy some of that into my op?

Thanks Alan. Have you got a picture of your towbar hooks? I've NEVER seen ANY hardware that states it can be used for snatch recoveries. That's the point. No one will rate hardware for snatch recoveries where loads are hugely variable.

haha ... spoilt for choice

Thanks mike. The tent adds 1-2 litres/100km highway or bush. Fully loaded or empty the tent doesn't make me feel like I'm gunna fall over. Car parks might be a problem once the lift is done.

Draft The talk has already started about recovery and where to attach so I thought I'd start a dedicated thread. If I get something wrong or you have more info then tell me and I'll update this post. Towballs are NOT recovery points and can KILL! Don't use them! EVER! from google I'm not sure anyone makes rated recovery points. If you have a new bit of steel with a SWL stamp on it I'd love to see a pic (bow shackles don't count). Snatching (particularly) and winching put a lot more stress on EVERYTHING. A difficult snatch can apply upwards of 3x the vehicle weight! What's the weak link? You won't know until it breaks! The Nissan tow points are just that, tow points. Towbars also have their limits. Warning (thanks carnaby). Most of the stuff we bolt onto our beloved trucks doesn't meet Australian standards for lifting & rigging (unless stamped with WLL) and are not tested to destruction. Working Load Limits (WLL) (thanks Ray) A tow or lifting point that is rated to sustain a load of 3500kg, is in fact able to sustain a much higher load before deformation or breaking. This is where Safe Working Loads (SWL) or as they are now defined as Working Load Limits (WLL) apply. The safety factor is usually around 5:1 ie if the WLL is 3000kg, the failure load will be at least 15,000kg. A lifting chain or sling with a rating of 8000kg will have a failure rating of 5:1, but a snatch strap rated to 8000kg does not have that 5:1 factor built in, it has a breaking strain of 8000kg ie it will fail at or about 8000kg of load (depending on condition of strap and other factors it will usually be a lot less). Chains are designed for lifting and constraining loads, they are not designed to be used where sudden and high forces are applied. Rear If you have a Hayman Reece (HR) towbar then you have a rear recovery point. You can make something like Many clubs simply use the pin. There are also commercial billet HR inserts for about $50. i have one of these (below). Of course this only provides a single rear recovery point. A rear bridle will need two (). Front After market recovery points can look like these but there are many varieties. Below are mine ($150 pair with bolts). Shackles Use "Bow" shakles, not "Dee" shackles. Bow shackles allow the strap to move at different horizontal angles without "bunching" Try using a shovel first.

I've been told not to mix red and green. not good for some reason, don't know why. perhaps you need a flush?

Show us your camping setup Mine. Ironman rooftop tent. Open Sky 2.5x2 awning. Rhinorack platform. 3 way fridge (with beer). Gas bbq. comfy chairs. Eskies. Food.

for sure. I'll take some close ups so everyone can see the quality but, I'm not sure I'll fit it. See, I have a sun visor (luv em), and I'm not sure the intake will clear the visor. I'd prefer stainless custom anyway. If it doesn't fit then I'll sell it.

I've got an "Open Sky" but I think they're all much the same (Ironman, arb, etc). 2.5x2m and about $250 last year from a local shop. A bit expensive but I've spent more since and now get a pretty good deal. I've seen a few with swags under awnings and they swear by them. my 2 cents. get it off the net.

snap ... look like mine

I'm still waiting

I'm not sure anyone makes rated recovery points. Lots of discussion about this elsewhere but my understanding (from the owners manual) is that the "hook" at the front is for "towing" only. Snatching (particularly) and winching put a lot more stress on EVERYTHING. A difficult snatch can apply upwards of 3x the vehicle weight! What's the weak link? You won't know until it breaks! Is this our first can of worms?

You can always go into private chat. That's fun.

You don't have to please everyone. Your call.